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because that's could be another

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touchstone that i think people can you

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know glom onto and there's some really

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interesting connections there too

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one is that uri geller of course is the

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very famous Israeli born psychic /

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entertainer / Mentalist who a lot of

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people will know or think oh yeah he's

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the guy who was debunked on Johnny

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Carson and I got a picture there on the

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screen of oh you know he was debunked

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and stuff like that and then that gets

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into the whole skeptical thing and stuff

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like that but there's a much much deeper

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story we actually explored this on

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skeptic oh but not too long ago I had an

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interview with Jacque fillet and lo and

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behold Jack Valais tells this amazing

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story of being a sr I lunch table and

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URI says hey Jacque I want to do an

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experiment with you and they do this a

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lot but the experiment right there that

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valet says is like completely proof

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positive that there's something real

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going on but beyond that there's all

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these other cases where people have said

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uri geller was for real uri geller of

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course he was at Stanford Research

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Institute and he was tested under the

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tightest conditions it doesn't take much

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to test whether someone can you know

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draw a picture that's inside of a manila

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envelope I mean they're the controls

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there are like high school level

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controls and you got some pretty smart

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smart top-notch people at SSRI so I say

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all that as a background so if people

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don't know your regular or just have

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this basic understanding of Uri Geller

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was a show magician or is a show

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magician a show Mentalist it's much much

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deeper than that and then there's also

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the whole deep state angle because once

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someone is known to have

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those powers a lot other people are

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going to be interested in him too and of

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course those people include the CIA they

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include Mossad Israeli intelligence so

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there's that whole thing but we're

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talking about andreev who Harwich and lo

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and behold he's the guy who brings hurry

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Geller to the US how does that well how

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does that happen I mean what's the whole

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the whole story there it's quite

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fascinating he as he said hurry is from

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Israel and you know we did a pretty

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extraordinary interview with with Ori

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for this film he's a really really

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remarkable well I no matter what you

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think about him but you know the story

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goes is I think it was around 1970 and

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you know goo hara CH was as as we've

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seen and as we've heard and as i've

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found to be accurate as was doing some

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contracting work for the CIA and you

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know at that time they were very

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interested in you know the paranormal

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stuff ESP even you know using magicians

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you know it's to trick people into

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things and and the story goes you know

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Guha rich was sent over to israel by the

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CIA because somebody there had heard

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about this guy Geller they said you know

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we've been to some shows he's this sort

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of illusionist he allegedly does he's

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pretty tricks he can read minds he can

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you know bend and these spoons he can do

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all these sorts of things and people

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there are pretty convinced that this is

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this is real and they said you know the

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toku Harwich go check this guy out and

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so he did he went over there he went to

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one together shows and you know this is

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where it gets a little strange because

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you know we don't know what who harch

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what kind of mine said he was in at the

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time what his real intentions were but

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whoreish was convinced as he writes in

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his book and as he's you know says over

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and over again

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that II thought Gellar was the real deal

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after one of these shows these magicians

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shows that Geller did and you know they

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set up a little lab and did all these

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tests with them which there's some

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footage of and you know doing things

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like moving the hands of the clock stuff

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like that these little mini experiments

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that Buhari sort of documented and let

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me check because if you look at all

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you'll see that there's dozens of people

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who had the exact same experience they

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met the guy they had a little bit of a

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scientific background they said okay

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test it he'd go okay he put his hand

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over your watch and your watch would

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stop or you know you could take out your

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keys forget the spoons take out your key

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your keys and you'd hold them and bend

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them so I mean I don't think it'd take

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too many of those examples right in

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front of your eyes where you'd say

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something's going on here that I need to

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look into a little bit further so

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same experience right yeah yeah and I

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think you know something I always find

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really fascinating about this whole

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you know we've got to look at blue harge

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as a guy who I mean this guy he clearly

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was a very bright individual you know

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and a lot of people they often say you

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know well Geller was tricking people it

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was a sleight of hand thing but you know

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it to me it always seemed like Puharich

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wasn't the kind of guy who would fall

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for it for something like that you know

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what I'm saying and I feel like it's too

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too easy to just say oh you know he was

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tricked and it's ridiculous really yes

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so I always looked at it as porridge you

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know he didn't seem like the type of guy

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who would fall for this kind of stuff so

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that's where it gets really juicy so

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because we're saying you know what

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really happened that got this guy who's

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you know a medical doctor whatever you

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want to say about him you know he

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wouldn't just fall for this stuff so

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that's where it gets really juicy but

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you know what happened basically was he

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was convinced that Geller could do these

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things and so

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he you know set up a research program he

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set up a research program through his

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friend Edgar Mitchell I'm sure you know

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a lot of people know about who listened

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to the show but you know the part is

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working closely with Edgar Mitchell at

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the time and they Mitchell was able to

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get some funding to set up this research

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quick tours to some universities and

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then they got set up at s RI and you

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experiments with Geller and that's you

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know where this whole this whole crazy

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thing with them happens you know they've

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got that footage the documentation of

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their the stuff Geller was doing with

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them and you know it's it's once again

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you know I keep saying it but a lot of

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this stuff it gets murky you know

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surface level story that you know

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was really going on here what were the

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intentions here tell us what you tell us

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more what you're thinking when you say

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that Greg well I think for people who

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don't know Andrei actually wrote a book

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called Erie and you know it's a very

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strange book I don't know who if

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anyone's read it I suggest we reading it

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just whether you're interested in this

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stuff or Knox it's quite an

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extraordinary book but in the early 70s

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book basically and this is you know we

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can get into the nine after this if

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you'd like but basically a Pugh heart

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wrote this book in the point in that and

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the the book puts out this message that

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Geller is able to do the things that he

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does because he's getting some sort of

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power from extraterrestrials

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it's like you're reading a an amazing

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sign sergeant this is what Geller has

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said right yeah so this is the crazy

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thing again that you know on this show

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path of looking at this consciousness

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stuff and I'm telling you no matter

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where you start you wind up with all

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this weirdness that's just unavoidable

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so you know try and take our story right

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now and try and take Puharich and try

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and stay between the little white lines

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it's impossible to do you know you're

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gonna wind up talking about all this

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wacky stuff and and so we're gonna talk

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work at s RI and this again straight-up

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this is the basis of parapsychology and

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crap compared to where these guys are

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going because you have somebody look

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irregular and he's saying right you know

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you think it's cool that I can bend

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these spoons and Wow but let me tell you

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it's really all about the aliens and the

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ETS and the other connection so thanks

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for watching this video if it wasn't

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really a video but just an audio stored

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as a video well I apologize but there's

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more videos out there as well but please

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